I must agree with your assessment about JSS although I am a member still. It is pure ponzi Remco. Indefinite the term is meaningless really. A play on words an attempt to add credibility. Note he does not say infinite.

1.not definite; without fixed or specified limit; unlimited: an indefinite number.
2.
not clearly defined or determined; not precise or exact: an indefinite boundary; an indefinite date in the future.


Zeek is the way and doing really well for us and for that I am grateful. Onwards and upwards, my friend!




Cheers,

Gene

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Hi amador,

Programs come and go, it has always been like that. But at this particular moment I advise to join ZeekRewards. It has all the things in place to skyrocket in the next year. The momentum is good, it is legal, it is based on a real business with a real office, a real support department, conference calls, marketing support and much more.
I'm making very good money with this program and the best part is that everybody can do the same,

Go check it out if you would like to know more, there is a great introduction video on my affiliate website:

http://oppsincome.zeekrewards.com

Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

Best regards,

Remco

Agree about JSS , I was in but I quit for the reasons Remco show here.

you're just a sceptic person... "First off, every program ends sooner or later. I know it and you know it too" - you're right. We die too, sooner or later. But there are some programs that will last life-long. Not exactly JSS, but Zeekrewards for example. Take a look at it and get educated! Good luck!

An excellent review which covered some notable points, easily seen from the outside looking in...
When I first came across JustBeenPaid (JBP) with its marketing eBooks and 4 Income Programs, I too, was skeptical, and like Gene, I knew the meaning of the word: "indefinitely", as opposed to "infinitely", so I watched the site for a while before I decided to check it out from the inside as a result of noting the growth of the membership. I joined from the Free Sign-up and immediately decided to attend a few of the live daily conferences to try and learn more; in addition, I chose to use the practice account before investing any money. The first thing I learned was that the Synergy Surf was not a "Surf Exchange", it is a parent account with benefits from which the 3 other programs (Warp, Booster & Tripler) are funded -- to and fro -- to in order to purchase positions and fro for withdrawals of any proceeds earned. The next thing I noted from using the practice account was that using the Tripler, the value of a position in it actually doubled in 50 days and that it pays at the rate of .20 cents per day (2% earnings). I learned that Tripler positions have a range of 90 days before they expire and revert to Free Synergy Surf positions which actually pay 3X the amount of themselves. By way of "earning mechanisms" (from which JBP could sustain itself), I noted the eBooks on Marketing Topics alongside the upgraded membership fees ($20 to Upgrade and then quarterly payments of $15); I also noted the two-tier payments which members receive when those in their down-lines purchase tripler positions ($1 on the first tier, .50 cents on the second) which leaves the company with having made $8.50 from which to invest in order to pay-out the .20-cent daily payments by way of the 2% returns. As I continued to try and study the various websites which JBP uses, one of the selling points which caught my attention was the disgust which the creator had for "Adventures4U" in which many lost money invested for advertising when it went belly-up and how he had managed to over-come their error in his new business model. Still unsure, I made it a point to contact Admin to see if they would be responsive and I spoke to members using chat during a couple of the night conferences (Wed, Thurs & Sun); only then, did I move forward to upgrade my membership and purchase a couple of tripler positions and so far, I have no regrets. Now, new members can Join and Receive a $10 Credit from which to purchase a Tripler Position without immediately upgrading and the proceeds from it -- which do in fact double in 50 days -- can be used to increase their 2% daily payments if they re-invest those proceeds to purchase a second Tripler position. Doing the math, it works out to 10 10 (2 Tripler positions) with 40 days remaining which will then pay $18 with one position expiring/reverting to a Synergy Surf Position (pays $60 upon maturing and regularly sells for $20) and the second continuing to pay at .20 for another 50 days which again doubles itself. Anyone who notes the Top Twenty List of those using the Tripler can see that money has been invested by way of 4-figures in most of the cases; in one case, the individual gained 39 referrals and has earned from the $1 commissions on the first tier and .50 commissions on the second tier of his referrals; the last time I checked, his initial investment of $68 had grown to $302 and he's earned in excess of $75K in months since the Tripler began in February of 2011...
I agree that there are uncertainties in internet marketing and everyone should make his or her own decision as to whether or not to choose to participate in a program and that each person should remain alert to any changes along the way. I have noted the re-starts but I have not lost any of my proceeds during either, so for me, I will continue to earn and make my regular withdrawals, and I would advise anyone who joins any program to always perform "due diligence" and recover their initial investment as soon as possible so that any future investment is made from the proceeds of the program, rather than more money out of pocket.

I must say I agree with the administrator on this, I always wonder how some of these programs will stay afloat, after all doesn't product cash = profit?

But when you have cash alone, from God knows where and no product, what is going to sustain such a program.

I've been studying zeekwards and though I've not spent a dime since I've joined (being cautious) I continue to see my daily bonus points grown by on average 1.70%.

Things to consider:

Product
A company with a 14 year history
Strategic planning (hiring the best attorneys in the mlm business) etc.
You earn by the daily profit sharing from sales (again products/store), membership fees, matrix etc.

I would like the administrator to give a review on zeek...

So far I see great potential, how long it will last, don't know, but what I do know I'm earning everyday.

Check it out, it's free, Spend money and earn faster or don't spend and your money still grows (at a slower rate of course).

All in all if I was to compare the two, jss (no product), zeek (products)

I just stumbled across this JSS program. I've been trying to study it while in the meantime, I started with a $10 loaned to me by the company itself. Now, the $10 is till yielding interest as I write this which is impressive, but I'm not easily swayed since I have quite an experience in this industry. I agree with the administrator but here's what I'm doing with this info. When I introduce people to my primary program where I teach them how to get thousands of leads monthly, most of my clients are African based and affording the monthly subscription of most programs in dollars is alot of hustle, so this is what I do. I introduce them to this, and they make a deposit that generates about $1 a day. My program costs $25 a month, so at the end of the month, they have $30 from jss. They then fund the primary business with that untill they start making profit.

By way of JustBeenPaid, YouTube has many videos available! Also, for those who don't know, JBP has a U.S. Patent and is a Great Program from which many (more than 120,000 members so far!) are earning a lot of money worldwide. The $10 Credit enables everyone to get started quickly with a Free JSS-Tripler position and they've added Solid Trust Pay as an alternative Pay Processor due to the ongoing problems with AlertPay not being able to accept VISA and MasterCard, nor conduct online withdrawal transfers to U.S. Banks. In addition, anyone can use the JustBeenPaid System to promote other Affiliate Programs as shown on the log-in page which one member exemplifies. Also, JustBeenPaid provides a practice account which anyone can use to test the system before investing any money to purchase positions from the JSS-Tripler or the JSS-Synergy Surf which by the way, involves no surfing! JSS-Tripler Positions mature and expire in 90 days which actually revert to FREE JSS-Synergy Surf positions and those pay $60. Anyone who joins JBP gets a FREE JSS-Tripler position which pays 2% Daily. While several on their Top Twenty Member Listing did invest by way of 4-Figures to earn in Excess of $200K, one individual only spent $68 to get started and as a result of his promotional efforts has managed to earn in Excess of $80K. To these ends, it might be wise to take a second look and do so from the inside out, instead of drawing conclusions from looking from the outside in...

I believe there is one big reason why this program is running over a year now in its current form and it is because of the greediness of the people!
You can put $100 in there and after 81 days you can withdraw $150. I would say this is an interest rate of 18%-20% a month. Better than any bank would give but my guess is that this is not enough for the majority of the people. So what do they do, they re-invest everything whenever they can. This means when you put $100 you will re-invest your first $10 back in the system. After 81 days you have 42 positions but no money. If you would decide from this point to take out all your money you have to wait for all your positions to expire, or you can keep re-investing so you build up a big amount of positions that will pay you 2% every day. Now let's say I want to be able to withdraw $100 a day. This means I need at least to have a total of $300 a day because if you don't buy positions your income will stop. To receive $300 a day you need 1500 positions which equals a value of $15000. The big guys who put in big money are not satisfied with $100 a day, they want $10k a day so they need 150000 positions. The small people start with $10 to $100 so 1 to 10 positions. JSS-tripler will slow down once people reach their desired goal, but go and ask, who has actually have a goal other than just making the most money as they can? The money will never leave the system and if it does it will restart so your total positions can half where as the other half is converted into JSS. Those positions will triple in value but in time and can be boosted by introducing new people...
I hope this made any sense and in my prediction I will say this program will run for at least another year!

Hi Remco,

I've been a member of Zeek and I love it so much.
Do you know other sustainable programs like Zeekreward out there? I need more income to support my family due to our bad economy.

Thanks,

Hi Kevin,

I just send you an email with more info, including a program that I can not advertise on this website!

Best regards,

Remco